Dave Ingraham and girlfriend Tennille were on a guided red stag hunt in New Zealand and weren't particularly delighted by the guide's technique. "We worked in and got 30 yards from it. We couldn't see it where it was bedded. I saw his antlers sticking up in the guide always wanted to be in front of me and tell me what to do. That is hard for me because when I hunt in the wild I'm always in the front and can't follow anybody. If I have to follow somebody I will veer off on another path and be by myself. Now I'm following this guy and he is telling me to stop and wait and it was a little bit hard for me. I have hunted for a lot of years, we had a lot of elk in Idaho and I consider myself pretty knowledgeable in how to get close to an animal and when to move and when to not move especially with a bow. You want to be inside 50 yards for a decent shot. He's in front of me the whole time and if I were a guide and I had a bow hunter, okay we are getting close. Why don't you get in front of me, even if he grabbed me by the back of the shirt. Anyhow he moved up, he didn't see the horns or he thought it was something else and we busted the stag out. Meanwhile I'm watching from afar and the stag gets up and jumps and bolts and I see them go behind some other shrub area where we couldn't see him and I thought honestly that Dave must have poked him because of the way he jumped but they pretty much spooked him away."